During these years of Edgar\'s life he had not much contact with John Allan. In August 1831, John Allan\'s new wife gave birth to the couples first child whom they named John Allan Jr. Edgar, who hadn\'t heard from Allan since he left West Point, probably found out about the child in October.
Edgar wrote to John Allan telling how ignorant and thankless he had been for the help he had received from John Allan and he was sure to say that it was not a concealed way of asking for money. But in the end of the letter he says that he was \"wretchedly poor\" though. And one month later Edgar claimed that he had been arrested for an old debt of $80 - but no evidence of this arrest has been found. Edgar\'s aunt, Maria Clemm , also wrote to John Allan at least twice trying to help Edgar out. Help was finally received and the debt was paid and after that Edgar had no contact with Allan for about 15 months.
Still in financial trouble, Edgar again went to live with Maria, his cousin Virginia and his grandmother in the spring of 1833. In April he once again wrote to John Allan begging for money to \"save me from destruction\". Allan who was fed up with Edgar\'s attidude refused any help.
In the 95 degree heat in the summer of 1833, John Allan became ill. He had now two children with Louisa, the second son named after William Galt. In 1834 the couple had a third child and John Allan health was not improving. A second hand witness states that Edgar came to visit Allan once and had to force himself past Louisa and into John Allan\'s sickroom. John Allan had raised his cane as to hit Edgar with it and ordered him to leave.
March 27, 1834, John Allan died sitting in his armchair. His will was problematic and not legally valid. John Allan\'s property was given to Louisa and the couple\'s common children. Edgar was not even mentioned in the will and although John Allan was good for about three quarters of a million dollar Edgar did receive nothing!